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	<title>Comments on: Charisma and leadership</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Stroup</title>
		<link>http://managingleadership.com/blog/2008/06/30/charisma-and-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-7581</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Stroup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Pat,

I think there can be emergencies when we need someone to take charge, and to grasp the reins while we willingly settle into the traces. And, certainly, I agree with you that management styles can vary naturally across industries and even firms - sometimes quite properly employing more authoritarian systems than are generally viewed as appropriate in any circumstance by detached observers today.

Charisma, though, is all about the individual, not the organization or its aims (unless the individual is the founder still acting as CEO). Accordingly, viewing it as an acceptable leadership style under broadly general circumstances (other than certain entrepreneurial ones) strikes me as problematic. If the organization has to adapt to the arbitrary character of the "leader," then it seems to me that we are getting things backwards.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Pat,</p>
<p>I think there can be emergencies when we need someone to take charge, and to grasp the reins while we willingly settle into the traces. And, certainly, I agree with you that management styles can vary naturally across industries and even firms - sometimes quite properly employing more authoritarian systems than are generally viewed as appropriate in any circumstance by detached observers today.</p>
<p>Charisma, though, is all about the individual, not the organization or its aims (unless the individual is the founder still acting as CEO). Accordingly, viewing it as an acceptable leadership style under broadly general circumstances (other than certain entrepreneurial ones) strikes me as problematic. If the organization has to adapt to the arbitrary character of the &#8220;leader,&#8221; then it seems to me that we are getting things backwards.</p>
<p>Does that make any sense to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://managingleadership.com/blog/2008/06/30/charisma-and-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-7572</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post.   I haven't really given much thought to leadership and charisma.   

Today's leaders have to colloraborate with others in order to build a strong foundation in their company. Yet we still hold on and gravitate towards the charismatic leader to drive the business.  Sometimes it does work, though in today's knowledge world, a strong leader needs to include the strength of those who have the knowledge.

I wonder if different industries call for different types of leadership?   I don't believe one size fits all, and yet the new leadership has to be inclusive in their role.
Pat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post.   I haven&#8217;t really given much thought to leadership and charisma.   </p>
<p>Today&#8217;s leaders have to colloraborate with others in order to build a strong foundation in their company. Yet we still hold on and gravitate towards the charismatic leader to drive the business.  Sometimes it does work, though in today&#8217;s knowledge world, a strong leader needs to include the strength of those who have the knowledge.</p>
<p>I wonder if different industries call for different types of leadership?   I don&#8217;t believe one size fits all, and yet the new leadership has to be inclusive in their role.<br />
Pat</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stroup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Stroup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Nina,

President Reagan was criticized by many for letting cabinet meetings become somewhat unruly as he waited for members to either find a consensus or surface all the issues. Either way, he had either a decision he might be able to approve, or all the available information offered and analyzed so he could make one himself. I agree, a good model.

As we've both noted in this context, the key role of the manager is to make decisions, and that function can't be decentralized just because everything else - even if appropriately - is.

Thanks for your visit, your excellent insight, and your writing - enjoy your 4th of July weekend also!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Nina,</p>
<p>President Reagan was criticized by many for letting cabinet meetings become somewhat unruly as he waited for members to either find a consensus or surface all the issues. Either way, he had either a decision he might be able to approve, or all the available information offered and analyzed so he could make one himself. I agree, a good model.</p>
<p>As we&#8217;ve both noted in this context, the key role of the manager is to make decisions, and that function can&#8217;t be decentralized just because everything else - even if appropriately - is.</p>
<p>Thanks for your visit, your excellent insight, and your writing - enjoy your 4th of July weekend also!</p>
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		<title>By: Nina Simosko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nina Simosko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,
Great piece and thanks for the referral to my Democratic Dictatorship entry.  As you note, this type of thinking is somewhat old school, but still prevalent in business.  I find that the new leaders are those that operate more as a strong figurehead soliciting input from those around them.  Not to get political, but it is somewhat reminiscent of how Ronald Reagan served during his presidency.  He surrounded himself with highly qualified Cabinet members who helped him gain a broad, clear understanding of the issues he needed to make decisions about.  And then, he made his decisions.

This is the style of leadership that I subscribe to and believe is a more applicable style especially in a dispersed organization wherein knowledge / intelligence is decentralized.

Thanks again and have a wonderful 4th!

Nina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,<br />
Great piece and thanks for the referral to my Democratic Dictatorship entry.  As you note, this type of thinking is somewhat old school, but still prevalent in business.  I find that the new leaders are those that operate more as a strong figurehead soliciting input from those around them.  Not to get political, but it is somewhat reminiscent of how Ronald Reagan served during his presidency.  He surrounded himself with highly qualified Cabinet members who helped him gain a broad, clear understanding of the issues he needed to make decisions about.  And then, he made his decisions.</p>
<p>This is the style of leadership that I subscribe to and believe is a more applicable style especially in a dispersed organization wherein knowledge / intelligence is decentralized.</p>
<p>Thanks again and have a wonderful 4th!</p>
<p>Nina</p>
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		<title>By: Real leaders &#124; Managing Leadership</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real leaders &#124; Managing Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] skepticism of the concept of the sort of singularly and exclusively exceptional individual leaders so often promoted by the modern leadership movement, it should nevertheless be noted that such persons really do [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Stroup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Stroup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Don,

I clicked over to your linked post (I hope everyone reading this takes a well-spent moment to do so, as well) and enjoyed very much the take on "care-isma" you present there. If the manager cares about both organizational purpose and the people he or she is jointly pursuing it alongside, things could promise to go well - and, indeed, people might even be drawn to this sort of approach. It's good - I like it!

Thanks so much for stopping by. I appreciate especially the link to your excellent writing about your intriguing perspective on leadership; I am a happy subscriber now - thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Don,</p>
<p>I clicked over to your linked post (I hope everyone reading this takes a well-spent moment to do so, as well) and enjoyed very much the take on &#8220;care-isma&#8221; you present there. If the manager cares about both organizational purpose and the people he or she is jointly pursuing it alongside, things could promise to go well - and, indeed, people might even be drawn to this sort of approach. It&#8217;s good - I like it!</p>
<p>Thanks so much for stopping by. I appreciate especially the link to your excellent writing about your intriguing perspective on leadership; I am a happy subscriber now - thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Don Frederiksen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Frederiksen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

I too, am concerned about those who imply a relationship between charisma and leadership. Nice post.

I generally don't see the relationship between leadership and charisma unless you mean care-isma, a clever play on the concept by consultant Rhett Laubach that I described in an earlier Lead Quietly post, &lt;a href="http://www.leadquietly.com/2007/07/what-do-you-mean-by-charisma.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;What do you mean by charisma?&lt;/a&gt;

Thanks for raising this topic.
Don Frederiksen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I too, am concerned about those who imply a relationship between charisma and leadership. Nice post.</p>
<p>I generally don&#8217;t see the relationship between leadership and charisma unless you mean care-isma, a clever play on the concept by consultant Rhett Laubach that I described in an earlier Lead Quietly post, <a href="http://www.leadquietly.com/2007/07/what-do-you-mean-by-charisma.html" rel="nofollow">What do you mean by charisma?</a></p>
<p>Thanks for raising this topic.<br />
Don Frederiksen</p>
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